Tuesday, March 04, 2008

N. Leucadia Pedestrian Crossing Workshop March 13



The city has scheduled a workshop on March 13 at 6:30pm concerning the pedestrian crossing at Hillcrest in Leucadia. Complete information is available on the city's website.


City of Encinitas Website link

PDF link

Google Map for Hillcrest in Leucadia

Leucadia Blog: Railroad Pedestrian Crossings Moving Forward

15 comments:

  1. Bury the train and make the entire corridor a pedestrian crossing!!!

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  2. You will get nothing and like it.

    One exception- You get taxed but all your money will be used to fix up down town Encinitas and Cardiff.

    The only thing you will get is more low income housing.

    I can guarantee you that the two ped crossings in Cardiff get built before any such improvement is built in funky ol Leucadia.

    Haa Haa- When will you ever learn?

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  3. So true. This is a dog and pony show.

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  4. The $20 million proposed for the tunnel crossings should be set aside in an account toward BURYING THE TRACKS only. (Again, it only cost $20million to bury the tracks in Solana Beach and SB only had to pitch in $2million. It's more expensive now of course, but the lasting benefits for the community AND NCTD regarding what can be done OVER the tracks is not being considered as incentive.)

    Meanwhile, the laws preventing the $50K ped crossings should be changed.

    Anything else is a waste of money and I'm not wasting my time going to any of these pro-pedestrian tunnel meetings. It's an outrageous expenditure and people will still cross wherever and whenever they want to.

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  5. As I drove to work this morning, I saw city workers meticulously caring for the downtown trees. I felt the smooth asphalt through downtown and Cardiff.
    Couldn’t the city at least fix the bluff-top fence at Beacons?

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  6. The fence got sorta fixed this week.

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  7. Fixed for Leucadia standard,not encinitas standard. Wood posts with cheap and ugly chainlink.

    Thanks!!!!

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  8. Hey Fred- You better take the ped crossing.

    I can gaurantee when the NCTD double track, they will electric fence and post gov. slacker watchmen to enforce no tresspassing. You think they care about Encinitas?

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  9. Thanks for the fence update. I will go check it out.

    Now, about that track...

    The California Regional Water Quality Control Board fined the NCTD for failing to prevent runoff on the Sprinter track. What about the runoff in Leucadia? And, what about the particulate air pollution every time a train goes by? Could the state force them to fix the situation? They wanted to put a tunnel through Del Mar and Del Mar turned it down. So why not build one for us?

    Please bury the track.

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  10. This is the biggest bunch of horse shit since the idea was floated to build a drainage ditch in Leucadia. Your govt at work- wasting time and $$$ for nothing!!!
    Bury the fucking track!!

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  11. Unless NCTD fences and enforces the rail road right-of-way, the pedestrians will not use them.

    Check out the below from:

    http://www.pedestrians.org/bridges.html

    There are situations where bridges built to replace a grade crossing fail miserably.
    1) Long winding ramps, stairs, or elevators, are perceived as inherently inconvenient by most pedestrians when a grade-level crossing is possible.

    This pedestrian bridge connects Prince George's Plaza with the nearby Metrorail station in Hyattsville, Maryland. The design of the bridge and its environment makes it seem inconvenient to many pedestrians. Half of the pedestrians crossing here cross at grade level in the shadow of the bridge.



    2) In addition, because of their expense, bridges are usually far apart. Most pedestrians will not voluntarily accept the added inconvenience of walking ten or twenty minutes out of their way just to get to a bridge, and instead will cross at grade at the nearest convenient location.

    Rather than create bridges that have both a convenient design and a convenient location, some transportation departments erect fences and barriers to force pedestrians to use the inferior bridges they do build. This Berlin-Wall approach to pedestrian control represents a failure to understand what pedestrians need.

    Would a majority of pedestrians use a proposed bridge without being forced to by a fence?
    If not, the designers need to work harder to improve the postive attractions of the bridge, rather than relying entirely on the negative barrier of the fence. A fence, if used at all, should be a supplement to good design, rather than the only incentive for pedestrians to use a poorly designed bridge in a poorly designed environment.

    I think if these get built it will mean its that much easier to double track through Encinitas without grade seperation. They will pave the way for fencing the Rail cooridor.

    I personally rather cross two rail road tracks then walk over a pedestrian bridge....its quicker and when walking the shortest distance is the most common path.

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  12. why not build a bridge from vulcan to west side of 101?

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  13. fred has it right. There 20 million dollar tunnels won't work except for those people that live very close to them.

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  14. dig and cover and lease the land above to pay for the whole damn thing. what we need is a rep. on the NCTD board with some balls to demand ped crossing or dig and cover. The invisible wall with hot and cold coaster cops is bullshit.

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