At ~6:30pm today, there were a couple hundred walkers, runners, and bikers walking Highway 101 in Cardiff. Along most of this strip of Highway 101 there are four lanes of cars going 50mph.See Also: The Del Mar Solution
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We could have this, but not this and four lanes.
ReplyDeleteMake the speed limit 35mph all through Encinitas for a start. This would encourage people to buy and drive their Neighborhood electric vehicles to the beach. It might discourage some cut through traffic from Carlsbad to use the freeway.
ReplyDeleteA boardwalk along Cardiff flats would be nice. Put it in front of the restaurants and along the highway. One lane each direction is enough. Why do we have to speed along the oceanfront?
ACutally, it is 3 lanes for part of that area, which is fine for northbound traffic.
ReplyDeleteWhat is your point? If you are trying to suggest that we should do the same through Leucadia I do not agree! There are no side streets or shops along that route. And there is a steel railing to protect pedestrians - that is not what we want in Leucadia. Let's not increase the speed, lets SLOW traffic down!
ReplyDeleteThe difference is that Cardiff is by the beach, nice ocean breeze with great views, relaxing walk. Leucadia is like walking, well through Leucadia. Nothing too exciting, unless you like old liquor stores, cars parked in your way, and views of nothing much. You are fooling yourself if you wish to be like Cardiff.
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ReplyDeleteCardiff is nice but the speeding cars suck! Especially by the beach. If Cardiff was smart they would lower the speedlimit to 30 or 35 mph and reduce the roadway along that stretch
Leucadia does not have the views but in its place it has the ability to have nice tall shade trees.
Lower the Speed, create needed safe bikelanes, walkways and landscaped medians and side areas.
Four lanes were for when the mainstreet was serving as a regional freeway... those days are long gone since the late sixties.... if you want freeway speeds use I5. We need a safe community mainstreet that we can drive, walk, bikeride along to go buy local goods.
9:14
ReplyDeleteWhat is compareable is Solana Beach.
Business on the west and hundreds of people every day walking and jogging along and enjoying the coastal trail provided.
Leucadia could install 40' coin operated periscopes on the highway, any time we wanted to look at the ocean.
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ReplyDeleteSounds like you are stuck in past and present and have no ability to see the potential of something in the future. (I.E. zero creativity and visionary skills). Please focus on what your good at which is?
Let me guess change scares you.
leave Lucadia alone!! change is NOT good. I miss the days of weeds and dirt in the medians. The walk at your own risk side of the road. What happened to the floding of the park, i miss that a lot. How come BOB nevers posts here any more?? BOB post again. Bring back
ReplyDeletethe only change I want is in my pocket
"I miss the days of weeds and dirt in the medians. The walk at your own risk side of the road."
ReplyDeleteWhy would you miss, what we currently have?
Leucadia should emulate Solana Beach - with more green space and funky shops. Infrastructure changes (not dealing with water) would be inexpensive - just a lipstick job.
ReplyDeleteAt the very least, it should be possible to walk the length of Leucadia on the west of the 101 on sidewalks. How is it we still don't have sidewalks going from Ponto to Encinitas blvd?
ReplyDeleteSidewalk building money has been spent on excess city staff, and their pensions.
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ReplyDeleteI was interested in seeing what people made those observations.
I'm publicly on record and remain strongly behind enhancing L101 and getting sidewalks all the way.
That doesn't mean that I think the rhetoric hasn't gotten a little frothy. What draws recreational pedestrians to an area isn't so simple?
The Encinitas Ranch trails have zero cars and wonderful views but many fewer people seem to walk it than you will find between Swamis and Pipes.
anon 1031,
Do you know if they have measured the trail's use level? I've never seen it with more than a couple walkers.
It's the guys on bikes that cause problems. You get groups of 50+ taking up the bike lane and car lane and not stopping for traffic signs of signals. I've seen several get hurt when they get hit by cars or run into cars because they didn't stop.
ReplyDeleteThe Leucadia experience over the last 30 years has been traditionally a driving outing. 101 under the canopy with the wind in your hair. Walkers, bikers, strollers, horses, carriages, are not historical after the mode of choice became cars. The quandary is preserving the 101, which was built for car travel but making it more pedestrian friendly. Doing a Birdrock annihilates the open road. Doing nothing hampers local business and sets Leucadia up for "redevelopment" on government whim. Solution: compromise. Leave some open space to cruise in a car, place sidewalks to walk, put in a bike lane, preserve the canopy of trees, and establish landscaping on the Encinitas owned portion of the desolate train corridor. A well-done facelift is cheap, efficient and alluring.
ReplyDeleteBonddi- How shallow your mind runs. 30 years is barely a blip in our history. To write off pedestrians, a successful business community, and bikes by saying automobiles have become a historically superior over everything else in such a short period shows you have little appreciation for history beyond your little time here on earth.
ReplyDeleteThe mode of open freeway along our coast for this short time frame was a 30 year mistake over the long life of our coastline. If you want open freeway, ride on the freeway its called the interstate, constructed in the late 1960s. If you want a successful mainstreet, you need to slow the speeds to 25 or 35 mph. Look at Hwy395 as an example, in Bishop, and Lone Pine, and all the other cool small towns, you see they set their mainstreet speed at 25mph….. We need 25 mph as well.
If you look at the last 30 years in So. CA and all of America, it isn’t good. People driving everywhere or even eating while driving (drive-thrus)….. People have greatly reduced their walking or biking…..as a result, Americans have been supersized……..fat asses abound…..now Americans wondering have humans evolved so quickly to really look like the humans in “Wall-E”. Is it the new norm to be so obese? The answer is only Americans and British have evolved so quickly for the norm to be a fat blob. Travel a bit and you’ll see the truth in my comments. It is way to easy to spot an American overseas unfortunately.
High speeds and wide open roadways (which encourage speeding) are not conducive to walkable communities. High speeds and wide open roadways are conducive to more Leucadian children being killed and the business district failing, and only I5 cut through traffic using our downtown business mainstreet. Wake up, you can’t have both.
Dear bonddi
ReplyDeleteThere is no room for safe bike lanes, planting on the east side is we have two fast lanes going north. And we can not restore the canopy on the east at all if we have two lanes north. Nor can we add needed parking.
Alternative # 4 solves the needs of Leucadia's future.
Think of what we want for Leucadia in the future.
Restore the canopy, calm traffic, safe bike lanes, a pedestrian and business friendly enviormment and parking oppertunities.
If we do not have three lanes and roundabouts, we will not be addressing the public needs and wishes for our community. Do we want to set aside these goals to accomadate irrational fears?
I don't
Dear bonddi
ReplyDeleteThere is no room for safe bike lanes, planting on the east side is we have two fast lanes going north. And we can not restore the canopy on the east at all if we have two lanes north. Nor can we add needed parking.
Alternative # 4 solves the needs of Leucadia's future.
Think of what we want for Leucadia in the future.
Restore the canopy, calm traffic, safe bike lanes, a pedestrian and business friendly enviormment and parking oppertunities.
If we do not have three lanes and roundabouts, we will not be addressing the public needs and wishes for our community. Do we want to set aside these goals to accomadate irrational fears?
I don't
Bonddis funniest comment ever
ReplyDelete"Walkers, bikers, strollers, horses, carriages, are not historical after the mode of choice became cars."
Cars trump all and erase all history.... too funny..... way to go Bonddi, you should have also included trees, dogs, and artists.
I suggest you get out of your car and live a little.
101 is historical only because it was a freeway, for cars. It wasn't designated historical because it was a dirt trail. My point is, change the topography, historical is just a memory "here used to be the historic 101" new markers will be placed. It is ironic that those who insist on a complete remake of the road don't recognize their "my way or the highway" approach.
ReplyDeleteI do.....hit the highway, shallow mind!
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ReplyDeleteCould you comment on 9:06?