Dan D. changed the "Holiday" Parade back to the "Christmas" Parade because of local tradition. No contests at Swami's is also a local tradition and should be respected.
BTW, those mugs were made by Vadna's Mugs of Leucadia that was a pretty famous pottery shop located where the corner frame shop is now. Vadna's had a large lit sign on a pole that was shaped like one of their mugs and it revoved continuously, night and day. (And sweaked a lot!) Between the bar being there forever and Morgan, it's always been a loud corner.
Vadna's funky signature mug had a dripping volcano look to it. They came in many colors. There are usually some for sale on ebay. Oh my, here's one now...
We can't use St Nick because 'St' denotes Saint, a no-no. Another taboo is using 'holiday' in our everyday language as it signifies 'holy day' used by Christians and Jews. It offends those of us non-believers and should become law.
Not to be the Grinch, but if we're gonna get real, Christ wasn't born on 12-25 anyway. And when the 3 wise men visited him they went into a HOUSE when he was 2 years old. Not a manger.
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).
The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT-Mms2t1hA
If Charles Schultz would have been more accurate with his Christmas TV specials, Peanuts would surely be banned.
Sparky must be rollin in his grave...the latest IMPROVEMENTS catalog, (back cover), has a "Peanuts" nativity scene, with Linus and Lucy as Joesph and Mary, Charlie Brown, Patti and Snoopy as the Three Wise Men, and Woodstock as the Baby Jesus. Oy vey!
But if it's history that disturbs you, I think that's a good thing. Your next step is to learn something from it, not pretend it didn't happen. (I didn't make any of that stuff up.) It's just that comprimising Pagans by letting them keep their winter solstice rituals and calling them Christian by pretending it's Christ's birthday, the St. Nick lie, the tree, the mistletoe, the Yule stuff etc. has nothing to do with honoring Christ. Neither would any parade in Encinitas, so far. No matter what it's called.
BTW, those mugs were made by Vadna's Mugs of Leucadia that was a pretty famous pottery shop located where the corner frame shop is now. Vadna's had a large lit sign on a pole that was shaped like one of their mugs and it revoved continuously, night and day. (And sweaked a lot!) Between the bar being there forever and Morgan, it's always been a loud corner.
ReplyDeleteVadna's funky signature mug had a dripping volcano look to it. They came in many colors. There are usually some for sale on ebay. Oh my, here's one now...
http://cgi.ebay.com/VADNA-WARE-CALIFORNIA-POTTERY-LEUCADIA-COFFE-MUG-VTG_W0QQitemZ190326496204QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c5057dbcc
Vadna's was prolific in the 50's and 60's.
Nice collection! I have the 1961 mug for sale in my shop if the collector is interested in it.
I've got the 1965 St. Nick parade mug.
ReplyDeleteNice. Bring back the st nick parade. Its should not be the christmas parade again. Once again Dalager was wrong.
ReplyDeleteLets get it right.
Thanks Blog and Fred for clarifying this point.
What holiday would one be celebrating on Dec. 25 if not CHRISTmas?
ReplyDeleteLibs would call it Hatemas.
ReplyDeleteWe can't use St Nick because 'St' denotes Saint, a no-no.
ReplyDeleteAnother taboo is using 'holiday' in our everyday language as it signifies 'holy day' used by Christians and Jews.
It offends those of us non-believers and should become law.
Check your new credit card interest rate. Christmas is cancelled this year.
ReplyDeleteLeu the atheist- So you don't believe in something that you don't believe exists?? Right!!!!
ReplyDelete'St.' is short for Street and for Saint. Does that mean we will have to spell out 'Street' from now on else we offend some brothers and sisters.
ReplyDeleteNot to be the Grinch,
ReplyDeletebut if we're gonna get real, Christ wasn't born on 12-25 anyway. And when the 3 wise men visited him they went into a HOUSE when he was 2 years old. Not a manger.
Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).
The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT-Mms2t1hA
If Charles Schultz would have been more accurate with his Christmas TV specials, Peanuts would surely be banned.
Sparky must be rollin in his grave...the latest IMPROVEMENTS catalog, (back cover), has a "Peanuts" nativity scene, with Linus and Lucy as Joesph and Mary, Charlie Brown, Patti and Snoopy as the Three Wise Men, and Woodstock as the Baby Jesus. Oy vey!
ReplyDeleteDan just did the name change thing to stir up trouble 'cuz that's what he likes to do.
ReplyDeleteFred you need help
ReplyDelete11:16
ReplyDeleteI do need help. Get down here and buy something!
But if it's history that disturbs you, I think that's a good thing. Your next step is to learn something from it, not pretend it didn't happen. (I didn't make any of that stuff up.) It's just that comprimising Pagans by letting them keep their winter solstice rituals and calling them Christian by pretending it's Christ's birthday, the St. Nick lie, the tree, the mistletoe, the Yule stuff etc. has nothing to do with honoring Christ. Neither would any parade in Encinitas, so far. No matter what it's called.
You need to get out of your cave during daylight hours and get some sun.
ReplyDelete5:54
ReplyDeleteHow right you are. I'm the palest man in the Western hemisphere.