Wednesday, December 02, 2009

Indian Head Canyon, Leucadia














Indian Head Canyon in Leucadia is a special place. When I was a little kid growing up this is where my friends and I rode our bikes and explored. The rope swing in the eucalyptus grove is still there. The canyon is now an official open space preserve that is maintained by volunteers. I enjoy taking my 2 year old son there and he loves it.
City councilman Dan Dalager suggested that this would be a good location for the proposed community garden (a terrible idea).
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34 comments:

  1. Suggesting the use of Indian Head Canyon by Dalager was a very aggressive act. Dan dislikes open space and the people who want to save open space.

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  2. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/03/surfing-contest-hits-rough-waters/

    If Linda loves surfing and surfers so much, keep the surf contest open to all. Have a open community surf contest with all the regular public in the water.

    The only need to privatize the waves is for Linda's profit and ego thinking her long board women are some how entitled to a private day of surfing Swamis without the public.

    If Linda loved surfing and Encinitas, you would not be pulling this crap.

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  3. One can only imagine what the hell Dalager is thinking about this issue or any other.

    He represents an ignorant, outdated outlook on life and society that doesn't benefit anyone, in any way.

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  4. Anon 8:10, the benefits go to a tiny proportion who are snug in the comfortable status quo. Those who are comfortable have no problem ignoring the life-changing catastrophes that many, many more are now facing.

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  5. Could you elaborate on why locating the community garden at Indian Head Canyon would be a "terrible idea"? Just curious. Thanks.

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  6. Reason number one. Indian Head already has a designated use that was assigned in perpetuity--open space for habitat.

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    1. Actually this area has been zoned by the City of Encinitas as "R3" which means that it could eventually be turned into residential units by real estate developers- ugh!

      http://ezoning.cityofencinitas.org/

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  7. We need soccer fieldsDecember 03, 2009 9:51 AM

    An ideal place for soccer fields. It will need some lights though, easy enough to install.

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  8. Dalager thinks a community garden is a blight that takes up space better used for high density development by one of his cronies. Dalager's continued blatant sell out at the expense of the public good amazes me. He thinks he is the Teflon Theocrat. Won't somebody with at least half a brain run against him in 2010 --- anybody know who is considering this?

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  9. The problem in 2010 is that if a person runs they might actually end up putting Doug Long on the Council. The votes could possibly be split and Teresa is also running again. I think it may be better to wait until 2012. Someone told me that Dr. Lorri was thinking about making a run for it in 2012. Maybe just a rumor, but I would vote for her even though I don't always agree with her. At least she has half a brain. I know she is an aging baby boomer, but I have partied with her and she isn't all that bad.

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  10. One of the so called clownsDecember 03, 2009 11:10 AM

    Dalablabber likes to call everyone one who disagree with him a clown. He is the number one clown in Encinitas, along with his two male buddies on the council

    The three clowns over spent big time and now don't have money for the soccer fields on the Hall property. Just cleaning up the contamination on the property is going to cost millions of dollars.

    The plan is sell the Quail Gardens property to help fill the black hole in the budget. Dalablabber's proposal to use dedicated open space for something else is a blatant diversion to cover up his lack of financial acumen. Don't fall for it.

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  11. I almost wish you hadn't posted this on the blog. Better to keep places like this off the radar.

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  12. Let's put a garden next to hiking trails and a million raccoons. Genius.

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  13. This blog used to be such a happy place like Leucadia. Now it is full of OC angst. What gives.

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  14. 11:21
    Everybody just wants the right thing for every place. Is that so wrong? If it's cheering up you want, go see Happy Tree Friends on youtube.com

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  15. what gives is the boyz are running wild at city hall. Change city hall and flowers will bloom and rainbows will appear.

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  16. This was a cool post about a cool Leucadia spot.

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  17. Doug Long on the council....Dear Santa, say it ain't so....last thing we need is another shit shoveler.

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  18. BS- Someone could run and easily win against Danny Boy. All they would need to do is use their press time to clearly explain there good objectives for Encinitas and clearly explain all the bad decisions and objectives Danny has and continues to support.

    Teresa has a great track record and will easily be re-elected. I predict she will beat Dannyboy like the cheap rug he is.

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  19. How did the City aquire Indian Head Canyon?

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  20. 9:11
    I know Sheila Cameron spear headed the drive to preserve Indian Head Canyon right after incorporation. (Hey, I can pun.)

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  21. Sheila also brought us the rusty guardrails that provide visual blight to the 101.

    And a storm drain system that is half ass unless you are a frame shop, then they give you our own opening. How many other business owners can claim that??

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  22. Fred,

    It may have been Sheila's desire to have more parkland, but Where did the money come from?

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  23. Fred,

    It may have been Sheila's "idea", but where did the money come from?

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  24. Why is it a terrible idea to have a community garden in a small part of this Park?

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  25. We need soccer fieldsDecember 05, 2009 11:37 AM

    anon-6:19- It's a bad idea because this land should become soccer fields so our children don't grow up doing drugs and joining gangs.

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  26. Anyone remember that really cool "slide" in San Dieguito Park before they covered it over in the early 70s due to safety reasons??

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  27. 11:29
    "Sheila also brought us the rusty guardrails that provide visual blight to the 101. And a storm drain system that is half ass unless you are a frame shop, then they give you our own opening. "
    You are so right that the guardrails provide visual blight to the 101. But you're so wrong that Sheila had anything to do with that. That boondoggle was a 500 K grant from the state to the city to "spruce up" 101. Ex-staff members are the ones that decided "rustic" guardrails would fit Leucadia better and make it look more like a "National Park" as they put it. (I know, I talked with them extensively about it.)
    Before the rusty guardrails, we had white, rusted guardrails. Sheila, myself and Leucadia Merchants Association wanted to get rid of all of them - not replace them with more guardrails! Using the first median at Leucadia Blvd on the hwy as the first example of what we wanted here, Leucadia Town Council acquired 24K from the city to curb that entire median with concrete, and plumb a water line to the median. (It's still the only concrete curbed median on N 101.) But instead of continuing the beautification of the hwy in this way, some at the city chose replacing rusty guardrails with rustier guardrails.
    What Sheila and I did push for were curbed and landscaped medians. (I still have the blueprints). We didn't get that. Consequently, as we are all witness to, the city, railroad and billboard companies would rather remove the trees than the guardrails. (But of course I finally have high hopes for the Streetscape!)
    At countless meetings Sheila, Gary Murphy and I encouraged the council to set aside 5 million dollars toward a new drainage system for Leucadia. Being the squeaky wheel for years paid off, as the city conscientiously funneled that much money toward a fix. The problem was, the engineer (not Sheila) put in a 24" pipe instead of a 48" pipe. The other problem was that someone passed the buck about that bad decision. The engineer claimed that the Coastal Commission forbid the 48" pipe for a new drain toward the Batiquitos. But when the Coastal Commission was asked about that condition, they said they never made any such claim and would have approved a 48" pipe. Consequently, no one was ever held accountable for putting in an inadequate storm drain. Of course we should be able to rely on staff and engineers to be competent and honest. But sometimes neither of those things happened.
    Fortunately, most of those folks from 15 years ago are no longer making decisions here in town.

    As far as favoritism to some businesses, naw. Rick Engineering was hired to do three things.
    1. Help make the "new drain" work better. Part of that included three new inlets evenly spaced. Per chance each fell in front of a business. Rick Engineering did a good job doing that - not just for a few businesses but for all of us in the thick of this flood zone for about 5 blocks.
    #2. Increase the capacity of the old pump station at Phoebe St. This too was a good thing that RE did, installing pumps five times the capacity of the former ones.
    As a result of #1 & #2, we don't have the problem we used to, the drains work quite well (barring sabotage, which has also happened) and I believe Gary Murphy will back me up on that.
    #3. But when it came to the other "solutions" RE came up with, I still believe their math was flawed on several points, especially when there were dollar signs.

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  28. cont...
    And just in case I don't make this comment too short, The "alternatives" RE concluded were good for N. Coast Hwy 101, were costly. Their preferred plan was micro-tunneling and removing all of our median trees in the process. It also had a $50 million price tag.
    If we learned anything, I think it's to be very careful about consultants. - like another one we hired for 40K to tell us how to become a "can do" city, telling us we needed an Ombudsman - (only for he and his wife to jointly apply for the 120K a year job). Yeah, that really happened here!
    So lighten up on Sheila and Morgan.
    On the darker side, looks like NCTD is axing over a dozen more trees on the east side of 101 soon. I'll send JP the Dear John letter we got from them. The romance is over.

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  29. Dude, you're giving away my secret Mt. bike spot!

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  30. It was Sharon Brossman who did the hard work too preserve Indian Head Canyon. The area is preserved for open space,not for a community garden.

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  31. 12:54
    Sharon Brossman was a great person and friend to Leucadia. Her and about 35 neighbors to the canyon did help with it's preservation, but it was Sheila C. and Dennis Holz that led the effort for years, including walking petitions door to door. Sheila was the one who was asked by state and fed personel to write the letter stating why Indian Head Canyon should be preserved. She also made the T-shirts promoting it's preservation. I believe the former property owners had lofty thoughts for hundreds of homes there instead. But a deal was struck and (if I'm not mistaken) the Eckes basically bought it for the city to be preserved as mitigation for part of developing their ranch. (Thanks Eckes, btw!) I too think the garden should be elsewhere. I'm one of the few people who thinks it should be on the beach at Swami's.

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