Sunday, February 03, 2008

Would the establishment still support the toll road if,

...it cut through the Torrey Pines golf course?




Fight the 241 toll road on Wednesday, Feb. 6th at the Del Mar fairgrounds.

Save Trestles website.

The Establishment.

*thanks Fred Caldwell!

*UPDATE--Carlsbad's mayor "Bud" Lewis is supporting the toll road so now you really know that it sucks balls.

The benefits of State Highway 241 to North San Diego County

7 comments:

  1. Torrey Pines Golf course used to be open to the public, NOT ANY MORE!!! Now it is run by the Century Club and outsides are not welcome to play. the city of San Diego let a group of private citizens takeover the PUBLIC golf course for personal use. Shame, shame, shame!!!

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  2. Someone is spreading lies here because all of my research shows that no surf spots will be impacted, no campsites will be impacted, and traffic will improve. Sounds like the dorks from "Save Cardiff" all over again opposing this.

    Me thinks that you do not need to be "establishment" to see through the Surfrider bull. I do not trust them and more than I trust Marco Gonzales.

    Do a little research and the truth just might set you free.

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  3. Surfrider feels that anything built within 5 miles of the coast will cause an impact to the surf! Such bullshit can only be found from political do nothings!!
    What does Surfrider really do?? They collect a lot of money from dupes and then do nothing!! Where does the money go, let's have an accounting!! I don't trust the Surfriders!!

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  4. I think Jerome Stocks and his pro development friends are posting the pro toll road stuff, and the anti Surfrider stuff.

    Doesn't matter who's doing it. The toll road would make matters worse and would benefit developers, cause more traffic, reduce the size of the park.

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  5. Will it affect the surf spot? A lot of guys in suits claim no. They even hired a local surfer geologist to back their toll road. You can find his video on youtube if you search enough. But the problem is, they don't understand how dynamic surf spots are, what makes them tick. The shape of the point, the sand, the kelp, the swell window, the rocks, it is all a whole sum of it's parts. The toll road shill seems to think it's all about the large cobblestones. While the Trestles cobbles are unique to Trestles by his logic you could harvest them all and deposit them up and down the coast and create many surf spots. But the nearly pristine watershed at Trestles will be impacted by the construction and future development that will come with the road. Those things WILL Trestles.

    The interior of the park will be drastically changed including historic archaeological sites. It's a beautiful place too and that should be enough.

    You got a point about Surfrider, I pretty much hate them most of the time and Marco is a goon. This is their last hurrah, if they lose this fight they should disband.

    I'm shocked so many "conservative" republicans are for a toll/tax road considering their demi-god Ronald Reagan wanted that land preserved. I guess that 2 week long funeral was all smoke and mirrors. When God created that special place did he really want a handful of people to profit from a road there?

    The OC reds seem to be hell bent into further turning southern California into Mexico. Baja loves it's toll road.

    Toll road=bad idea.

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  6. the poster has it right. The toll road help developers and folks that buy their crappy boxes, and hurts the rest of us and the wilderness.

    the vote seems easy to me. How about you Jerome? Do you side with your butty Bud?

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  7. It ain't called CarlsBAD for nothing. Check out the trial coming up against Legoland in the downtown Court -- sexual harassment. Should be interesting. HMMM why isn't this trial being held in the Vista courthouse?

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