Workers in the trees, photo taken from Vulcan Ave.
Photo taken around 5 pm today, notice the gap.
The Union Tribune picked up the story today, read it here.
Leucadia Blog: Tuesday is Chopping Day for L101 old growth trees by the NCTD
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Just a Trim, so far
Although there was hype that the NCTD was going to do a major removal or trees on the north L101 corridor today, they only cut a few down in this section.
Workers in the trees, photo taken from Vulcan Ave.
Photo taken around 5 pm today, notice the gap.
The Union Tribune picked up the story today, read it here.
Leucadia Blog: Tuesday is Chopping Day for L101 old growth trees by the NCTD
Workers in the trees, photo taken from Vulcan Ave.
Photo taken around 5 pm today, notice the gap.
The Union Tribune picked up the story today, read it here.
Leucadia Blog: Tuesday is Chopping Day for L101 old growth trees by the NCTD
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I measured the trees from the tracks last night. Many of the marked trees are on City Property- Not NCTD!
ReplyDeleteThis sounds like another Law Suite to me. NCTD does not have the right to cut down trees on our property.
The City better get a land surveyor out there to establish the legal property line and take pictures to establish evidence for the upcoming lawsuite.
The tree removal will continue today.
ReplyDeleteDeath by a thousand cuts
ReplyDeleteThere is a council meeting tonight.
ReplyDeleteLet your concerns be heard.
If you take down the trees then the motorcycle cops with their radars won't have anything to hide behind.
ReplyDeleteThe below comment from today's UT tree article is a prime example of the stuff that needs to stop.
ReplyDeleteThe I5 commuter cut through traffic is killing Encinitas. Tell the City to stop the freeflow through Encinitas. The City has timed all the southbound lights to stay green for long periods of time in the morning. Its killing business and lowering property values.
From the UT
By Grrrr on 01/16/2008 at 7:03 a.m.
"Last fall a large portion of one of these trees fell near Hansens Sports. It crushed a red sports car. I understand the beauty of these trees as I take the 101 going south every morning to bypass the 5. But I don't want the guilt when one of these trees causes a derailment and hurts/kills people.
Sorry, but if they have documentation stating that they are hazardous, the trees need to go."
For the health of Encinitas- Stop the commuter cut through flow!
The tree that fell at Hansen's was in the parking lot and had black top right up to the trunk. It was not a healthy tree and had been abused.
ReplyDeleteThe trees in Leucadia have stood more than 3/4 of a century. What we need is a sensible replanting policy for trees that have died and a sensible pruning policy for trees that have become top heavy. We don't need the arboreal massacre that is going on now.
A big rasberry for Jerome Stocks and the NCTD!
You tree huggers are sick. If it makes it safer cut them down. Those trees are ugly anyway. Replant with Torrey Pines. They are better looking and don't tend to collapse in high winds and rain.
ReplyDeleteTalk about killing trees....
ReplyDeleteI know at least 9 more that have recently been put in jeopardy.
Check out what Paul Ecke Central Elementary school did to the old growth along Vulcan Avenue that I believe is within the City property. They paved over the roots right up to trunk.
If Leucadia Town Council is our true council who cares, maybe they could talk to the school and determine what needs to happen to save the trees. Like removing some of the newly placed asphalt or a watering schedule. Please consult a botanist- not a arborist. If you talk to an arborist, they will say the trees need to come down.
Know wonder there coming down!
ReplyDeleteArborist = Tree Surgeon
Defination
An arborist (or tree surgeon) is a professional in the practice of arboriculture, the management and maintenance of trees. Work may also include care of shrubs, vines, and other perennial woody plants. An arborist is distinct from a forester, or from a logger. Those professions may have much in common, but the scope of work is different. Arborists frequently focus on health and safety of individual trees, or wooded landscapes, rather than managing forests or harvesting wood. Certified Line Clearance Tree Trimmers are the only persons allowed to work within ten feet of an energized conductor. ( American National Standards Institute Z.133- and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) A Certified Arborist (or 'CA') is a professional who has over three years experience and has passed a written test (International Society of Arboriculture-isa-arbor.org). Certified Arborist Technicians, (or 'CAT') is the designation given after a less rigorous exam, written or verbal, and a short climbing test.Other designations include Municipal Specialist, Utility Specialist, and the most difficult credential to achieve; the Board Certified Master Arborist (BCMA).
If "they are cutting down our tress" is so sure these trees are on City property, why don't you call the city, instead of waiting for others to do it?
ReplyDeleteAnybody read the "document" that Stocks is hiding behind? Anyone with knowledge reviewed the "document" that Stocks is hiding behind? Is that document anything like the Cardiff Specific Plan, city wide traffic study, or the public works yard appraisal? I hope not.
ReplyDeleteTo anon 9:15am-
ReplyDeleteNo need to. City Staff and Council regularly read the blog, so they got the message.
Whether they act on it is a different story?
Drive the coast from Oceanside down past Del Mar.
ReplyDeleteOne irrefutable truth: Leucadia is ass ugly. And I'm not referring to sandbags or sporadic trees. The business and various buildings remind me of a third world country. Well maybe that's going too far. Reminds me of a second and a half world country.
Anon 9:49-whether the city people read the blog or not is not the issue. If you are sure, then it seems to me that you have a responsibility to go to Cit Hall and complain to the approprate department. If you don't do this, you nothing more than a whiner and complainer and expect others to do the work for you. It doesn't always work that way.
ReplyDeleteWhat people have died from in Leucadia in the last 100 years:
ReplyDeleteTraffic collisions: 182
Train fatalities 63
Cancer 8,356
Disease 4,120
Old age 134,998
Murder 25
Over Dose 189
Bluff failure/falling 14
Trees falling 0
Unofficial, but you catch my drift.
You better start south of Oceanside. Oceanside is as ass ugly as Leucadia without one tree. Plus their hookers are double ass ugly.
ReplyDeleteOceanside hookers? They disappeared a few years ago. Believe me, I've been a'lookin.
ReplyDeleteLeucadia still gets my ass ugly vote.
Mr. Ass Ugly, in a couple of years there is going to be a big streetscape program in coastal Leucadia. Better buy a piece of property and fix it up and be ready for it.
ReplyDeleteActually, the streetscape program will begin this year. Workshops are going to begin in February. Then planning and then implementation.
ReplyDeleteYou are all welcome to attend.
Except A...10:05pm.(not invited)
Leucadia is one of the last coastal towns with any character in this State. Drive through La Jolla, Pacific Beach, Manhattan Beach, Malibu, Carmel, etc., all those downtowns look the same, feel the same and taste the same --a melange of yuppie claptraps with no architectural integrity housing corporate enterprises staffed by denizens of automons. Uniformity of space only perpetuates uniformity of thought. Will we rise and rave, or be shackled by our own silence to a purgatory of mundane commercial blight and tasteless croissants.
ReplyDeletefraiser,
ReplyDeletea reletivly new word coined by the internet is "generica."
As in I live in generica. A place that is indistinguisable from any other place.
It is the biggest problem we face as a country and a city.
Leucadia will be improved but will always retain its uniqness, the folks that live there and are involve will demand it.
Ugly? you mean ugly like a forest of plastic cristmas trees perfect and fake?
Or ugly like a real forest with undergrowth, young trees, old trees, straight trees, crooked trees, dying trees, different trees.
What forest do you walk in?
The art and soul of Encinitas. I love it.
Hope to see you at the L101 meeting.
Peder.
No... I mean ugly as in orange sand bags, run down boarded buildings with boarded up windows, dirt all over everything, weeds, trash, bums asking for money and peeing on everything, no trees along the main stretch like there used to be, an ugly ass fast moving load train, and ugly people in ugly cars hauling ass to get through the dump land to get to nicer places like down town Encinitas, Cedros district, or Del Mar. Oh yeah, and when it’s not dusty, It floods.
ReplyDeleteI wish it was a non-perfect forest....but it not. Its only a dusty shit hole with a few stinking old trees that will soon be removed by the oh so powerful City forces supported by their certificate holding arborist.
That’s the ugly I’m talking about.
Peder, Generica, Shcmamerica. Ugly is ugly. Never said "indistigushable", just "ugly". It doesn't have to be an either/or, there are many shades of kinda ugly, kinda average, somewhat attractive, in between the extremes. You get the point.
ReplyDeleteYour beloved Leucadia is like the fat kid sitting on the "ugly" side of the see saw. The little scrawny kid in the air can't compete with the fat and ugly kid. Scrawny kid is stuck in the air until the fat and ugly kid decides to move his arse off the see saw.
Of course you love it. It's your job to love it. Show me the money and I'll love it too.
The way everyone will get money is if Leucadia's main street is improved with a canopy, streetscape to provide for a decent walkable downtown area. And deminish the existing unsafe speeding freeway effect that is causing blight in the community.
ReplyDeleteEstablishing a healthy walkable business community is good for everyone. Good for the businesses, good for the surrounding property values, and good for the City due to the increased revenue from sales tax and property tax. Its a wise investment that will pay a high rate of return.
Instead, we are focusing on trophy project that will continue to tap our budget with ongoing operational costs that far exceed the beneficial return for the investment. These trophy projects include the 20 million library (budget should have been half), 15,000,000 in firestation remodels (budget should be 1/3 and they just spent that on the Leucadia station), Hall regional park (60 million plus) Way overdesigned regioanl park for a town of 60,000 residents to foot the bill.
This City has no financial leadership and no common sense.
The streetscape for Leucadia should be a high priority. Yet it just gets talked about year after year after year after year, with no results. I heard at the goal setting in January 2006 that it was going to be designed that year. Here we are two years later, and we keep hearing we are just about to start meetings on the subject. I'll believe when I see it. When will the first phase begin 2030? By then the cat will be out of the bag and everyone will know the City is in financial trouble like San Diego and oh so many others in San Diego County.
The big problem- huge outstanding liabilities for pensions and health care benefits that were never reported in the Cities budget as a liability. What a crook of shit, yet we keep hiring more staff and giving them raises, and increasing their pension benefits. We currently use well over 90% on overhead costs with a 90% share going to staff salaries and benefits. When will we begin to elect government leaders that have some common sense on how to manage and improve a City instead of selling out the citizens to pay for the workfare of the government tit suckers?
Excellent comments!
ReplyDeleteIf i could, I would pay to have my job.
ReplyDeleteThe misses (and children) see it a different way.
I am blessed, Leucadia and Encinitas are great places.
warts and all.
Cheers
Peder
Opps,
ReplyDeleteI think misses would be plural.
how about Mrs. Norby,
LOL
Peder
Peder-
ReplyDeleteYou are not a lifelong liability.
If you don't perform to our City Managers and Citizens satisfaction YOU WILL BE FIRED. Hence- No more cost.
Luckily for us, you are performing well. Your benefit far exceeds your cost. Keep up the great work. We appreciate it!
Way to open yourself up for the full Blog comments. Good and bad. You have complete transparancy and full public disclosure. Well Done.
Posting under your own name takes serious balls.
Cheers Peder!
Leucadian (obviously a coward)
Fred is right on the money. If you look at his stats over the last 100 years it appears that old age is a real dangerous thing. Something needs to be done about this. Maybe people as they age should jump of trees to even the playing field. Problem solved.
ReplyDeleteNo. The older generations will just keep getting the country further in debt.....OH - you need to take care of me.... "I'm a poor old person.... pay for everything.... I didn't save shit and now you must pay for me while I live in my Oceanfront home with no mortgage and $200 a year in taxes."
ReplyDeleteThey will live until they are 200 years old. Between the old farts wanting every entitlement and the illegals tapping all government freebees we are Screwed with a capital S. Vote for me and I cut all that shit out. Lower taxes and really get the economy kicking in high gear.