Dude, we gotta go back. I just saw a small plant we missed.
Two stories in the North County Times this week about the grading permits in the city of Encinitas.
Monday:
Permit change proposal riles environmentalists
Wednesday: Encinitas airs proposed grading ordinance
This is a controversial topic mostly due to the drama that happened on Andrew Avenue in Leucadia in 2006. The pads for Barratt American's "Nantucket" development were raised a whopping 8 feet despite the city's own guidelines stressing an emphasis on preserving the natural grade of the land.
See Leucadia Blog: Barratt American, Your New Neighbors on Sheridan!
Under the new proposed ordinance, developers could obtain a so-called "minor grading permit" for certain projects that move 50 to 250 cubic yards of dirt. A minor grading permit can cost $900 and take six weeks to process.
PDF link to the city website: 23.24.090-General Exemptions.
The city already has a Minor Grading Permit, 23.24.125
I laughed at some of the comments on the NCT website. Some people are pretty angry that they have to get a grading permit because 'it's my private property dammit'. CEO of mega-developer Barratt American Michael Pattinson once wrote an infamous op-ed piece comparing a guy on a tractor who graded his land without a permit to civil rights activist Rosa Parks. Heroes slice through red tape
But, the big flaw in the "I will grade my private property however I see fit bro" is that if you don't know what you are doing you can flood out your neighbor, cause a landslide or even screw up your own site so bad your property sinks and you crack your foundation. Yep, grading permits are kind of a bureaucratic necessary evil to keep yokels from completely jacking up the neighborhood they live in.
As for the controversy, I'm sure the comments to follow will focus on the personalities of the players involved and not on the actual permit code...
My terds are bigger than 50 Cubic Yards. Do I need to apply for a grading permit before I flush?
ReplyDeleteplease do, your hefty tuuurds are contributing to the astronomical sewer rates.
ReplyDeleteScene One: Landlocked parcel sold for potential "ocean view."
ReplyDeleteStocked: Shake that thar leg, times a wastin!
Glennboy: I ain't so sure my pants goin make the Top Ten on Blackwell's list.
Stocked: Quit yur whinge! I dun tole ya high cuffed pants are the cuttin edge. Need I 'member you, this is how that Mr. Shawskunk broke out of jail -- he don raised the grade in the exercise yard and skidadled to the ocean.
Glennboy: I knew that, I seen the Shawskunk Bellion, youse not the only one wit a TiVo.
Stocked: Jess keep droppin yur pants and keeps quiet.
Scene Two: Two months later.
Stocked: (ridin high on a John Deere) Woooheee, Glennboy this done set my pants afire! (gears grind) Holy Mojitas -- ain't no forgiven from this bitch-- ha ha ho ho he he...
Glennboy: (dusting off his pants' cuff) Jerryboy, you so right. You ride that that thar contraption, show her who's boss. He he ho ho ha ha.
Jerryboy: Them yokels so dumb, can't even suck thar thumb. I jess made that one up.
Glennboy: Jerryboy, you so right. Yokels don't even knows ifs its comin or goin.
Jerryboy: Ya got that one right. See I'se been addin dirt to this here lot, so when's I grades it level, no needs to get a real permit cause ain't movin much -- it's already been here.
Satellite picture of Encinitas in 2015 shows homes perched on termite mounds. Fadeout...
stocked and sabined:
ReplyDeleteI realize you're loved by Dr. Lorri, the twitchy itchy animal dr..
But realize, everyone else can pretty much do without. Please. Your posts pretty much suck my shcmegma, dude. Seriously. I'm sorry your self-proclaimed promising Holywood screenplays never worked out for you (your parents weren't being a-holes when they told you your writing sucked), but your posts really do suck. Seriously. Dude. Seriously.
Seriously.
Boo Hoo. Seriously.
ReplyDeleteGood story.... weak ending.....
ReplyDeleteYou have to finish good or the whole thing sucks.
Normally I like the stories. this one sucked.
Try again
Actually after that 11:03 comment -continue what ever your doing. My slight comments are minor edits to the pure truth which your are day lighting. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteMe feeling some pain in my lower abdomen. Me better go to the City to apply for a minor grading permit. I hope it doesn't take more than an hour. Or I might have to go Illegal. I hope my momma forgives me if I do not get the permit in time.
ReplyDelete250 cubic yards is a lot of dirt. A standard football field is a 100 yards long. One cubic yard equals 27 cubic feet. So that means 250 cubic yards amounts to 6,750 cubic feet.
ReplyDeleteConsidering Encinitas is near buildout, and there are very few big parcels still to develop, this grading policy change is basically city staff abdicating any oversight for all future infill development. Which then would pit neighbor against neighbor
stocked and sabined:
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good stories.
Have any of you noticed that when a person posts by his or her own name, they can expect to be trashed? I love it. In my case, Anonymous 11:03 even got the spelling of my name right, which a lot of people don't. So, it must be someone who reads my posts a lot. Thanks who ever you are. I do love to read Stocked and Sabined, and only wish I had the humor and wit whoever posts it does. Obviously it is someone well educated and well versed on the City and its politics. Could it be a Councilperson? NAW- too well written to be Jerome. Besides he seems to be somewhat humor challeged. The point of J.P.'s post was about grading. I think only Bob has addressed it. I don't know enough to address it, so I will learn more. Sounds fishy though, or should I say Woof-woff!
ReplyDeleteHey- check it out- Ron Paul bought a home in Leucadia. Sweet!
ReplyDeleteMaybe after hes done being president in 8 years, he cant be our mayor.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
whoops. I meant he CAN be our Mayor.
ReplyDeleteHow'd you find out Ron Paul bought a home here?
ReplyDeleteI think it was a trick to get us to log on to the political website. I ended up reading the whole thing and deciding to vote for Ron Paul. I feel like such a schmo.
ReplyDeleteFred-
ReplyDeleteYour a smart schmo and we love you.
Fred- would you like some grain with your feed?
ReplyDeleteAll it took for me was to watch him speak and explain how the current republicans in congress are bankrupting our country and He thinks we should leave Iraq and I was interested.
ReplyDeleteHe is the only true Republican that follows GOP values-Follow the constitution, stay fiscally conservative, and first choice is none intervention.
He will get us out the Iraq war quicker than any other candidate, his is the number one choice for enlisted military, and he has my vote.
I think if Ron Paul lives in Encinitas. He will fit right in.
I received my absentee ballot and I voted for Ron Paul.
Doctor Lorrri has made the grade!!
ReplyDeleteWE need HER fo Council! RUN LOORI RUN! Save us Save us Save us.
Dr. Lorrrrrrrrrri. Please do run.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see you explain why the voters got it wrong after you've been trounced.
You come across as crazy in person. Sorry, it's the truth. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you're very nice in person. But from close quarters, you seem twitchy, itchy, nervous, bug-eyed, MF'in unbalanced. Can't put my finger on the exact reason, but you do. That doesn't seem to work well in politics.
That, and looking like a frumpy crew-cut dude when in fact you're a granny... but that's someone else.
Please run for Council. You've got my vote. You too, nana w.
Geezus, JP. Quit this anonymous bullshit. Didn't you disallow the anonymity thing not too long ago to prevent these idiotic posts?
ReplyDeleteIts still unanimous if with the user name... you can pick whatever name you like.... Like Arnold or Jimmy Buffet......
ReplyDeleteSo in the end, adding the sign in username and password requirements just makes it more time consuming to posts and cuts done on the traffic.
All of this would make it less entertaining.... And that is the real value of the Blog.
If anyone posts under their own name, they earn creditability for having brass balls, be they should be prepared to be flamed as we've seen so many times.
If anyone is running for council, they better get used to a few flames now and then....
The description of Dr. Lorri didn't seem too harsh to me.... Look at what this blog has said about others in the past.... some of what I remember is:
Jerome- A fat and getting fatter wantabe surfer who takes bribes from developers and continually tries to shut down City transparency..... a classic Bush fan.... says he's Republicans but spends money faster than a democrat by giving City Hall every raise and fringe benefit increase ever dreamed, also known to have pushed the $5 million dollar a pop fires station upgrades to the top of the City's improvement list after receiving support from the fire department unions throughout his career. Supports developers at all costs to the public once again because of the financial support throughout his career... let’s not forget the snake eyed look and uncomfortable feeling you get when you have to look Jerome in the eyes.... a mix between an used car salesman, vacuum clear salesman, insurance saleman, and real estate agent. Your gut screams that he is not to be trusted…. Well that enough about our friend Jerome.
How about poor little old Danny-
Our own howdown coastal version of Slingblade. Loved the movie, just don't want Slingblade running our City. Plus its pretty much proven that the guy doesn't have the ability to listen and understand anything that is said to him.
Jim- We are starting to lighten up on Jim since he will be departing come November. So I'll skip the revisits.
Glenn- He has taken a beating the last few months. Some words I've seen fag, hair-backed, unethical, bribe taken, Jerome cronnie.... Oiyee- that hurts.
Phil- Nice guy but incompetent and put in place by Jerome and our ex-mayor firefighter union cronnie. it’s not fair to put someone in a job that their not qualified. Parks director to City Manager in a few years. A least he got a $100,000 raise in the process.
Bob- Preaching Fag
The best example is Fred. Fred is one of the nicest guy and one of those people that just lives like Christians really should (I have no idea about his spiritual beliefs, but he is a great honest guy). Even Fred gets slammed from time to time!
My point is don't post under your own name unless you have thick skin. And if you’re running for council get your skin toughened up, it’s not always pleasant. Just ask any of your councilmembers.
JP- Keep it open. Keep it entertaining.
I agree. Pleae keep it open J.P. As a "shrink", of course I am crazy. Who else would always post under her own own this blog? Twitch, itchy, etc. , I guess I will have to watch myself more closely. I wouldn't have used those words to desbribe myself, but then again, none of us knows exactly how another sees us. However, I give the poster credit for stating that I might be a nice person. I guess that would depend on one's point of view as well. As far as running for City Council, I think not. I'll leave that to the nice guys like Fred. Besides we already have enough crazy people on the Council. Somebody has to watch them. And, at least I am trained to do that. We all know that the State is crazy, as it gave me a license to pratice psychology on people. Now that is scary! So beware, I wana be me.
ReplyDeleteThe moment J.P. required names/identites, i.e. responsibility of bloggers, the volume of posts became a trickle.
ReplyDeleteTo kick-start this blog last summer, J.P. had to re-open the door to anoymous violence against personal character.
This blog ONLY works because of anonymity.
The poster above is correct. If you decide to get up on the world stage of politics, prepare to be a target.
As Dr. Lorri sees the world, so too does the world see Dr. Lorri, often through inverse prisms. Realization of this is often painful.
It is the sheer calousness and shadenfreude on this blog that is so breathtaking, a web analog of Lord of the Flies; nuts, berries and all.
And while J.P. purports to be a benign god overseeing this little universe, there is wholesale carnage down below.
Just like real life...and politics.
Do I dare jump in and address the grading issue? Only Bob has made a relevant comment. He is correct. 250 cubic yards is a whole lot of dirt.
ReplyDeleteI tried to post on the NC Times, but got censored. All I said was that it was Bill Weedman who made the comment that previous grading irregularities should be addressed in private, not in public discussion. This was after Maggie asked a probing question. Holy Moly! There goes the transparency that Bond is always talking about.
Bill Weedman has retired, but the city brought him back as a paid consultant for this issue. He had been up to his armpits in all the anomalies in previous projects, such as Sheridan/Andrew and Leucadia Cove.
When Teresa showed the photos of the project at Birmingham and Mackinnon in Cardiff, engineers Peter Cota-Robles and Masih Maher went blank about the details. Shades of Scooter Libby in the congressional investigations!
Check out the webcast of the meeting on the city website. It's very telling.
And to Dr. Lorri: Go, Girl, Go!
Yes, J.P's post was about grading. However, grading can come in many forms. We all got grades if we went to school. We are graded every day by our family, friends, peers etc. I posted that I knew nothing about the issue at this time. Doesn't mean I won't know about it. Then I will post something. The anonymous poster who didn't seem to be much of a fan of mine stated that the truth can be painful. So true. In the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, since Monday is the celebration of his birth:" Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well being of a person or an animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way". Not bad words to live by IMHO.
ReplyDeleteHey folks, it's reelection time in Encinitas. Jerome Stocks and his henchmen, most notably Mike Andreen, are stirring the pot. Don't know who Mike Andreen is? Ask Maggie, and you will get a 10 minute monologue, and it's all true.
ReplyDeleteAnd while J.P. purports to be a benign god overseeing this little universe, there is wholesale carnage down below.
ReplyDeleteJust like real life...and politics.
Wow- Absolutely Excellent Words. Thanks for your brilliance. One of the best statements I've seen on the blog. Thanks!
What the hell does it mean? If it is so brilliant it shold be understandable. I liked Martin Luther King's quote better. At least I can understand it.
ReplyDeleteYou do have a sense of humor, Dr. Lorri, as your 8:41 am post above proves. In the famous words of vice-president Spiro Agnew, I wouldn't let the words of the "nattering nabobs of negativism" cause you too much concern.
ReplyDeleteThere is a special place in Hell for anonymous people who complain about anonymous comments.
ReplyDeleteAs a preaching fag, I say bring it.
ReplyDeleteI stand behind my name because I stand behind the words I write or speak.
Do do otherwise is corwardly and dishonest.
Why would Bob say Do Do?
ReplyDeleteHey Bob-
ReplyDeleteI can understand cowardly, but please explain why you feel Anonymous comments are dishonest?
Bob said do do for obvious reasons. He has do do on the brain. Preaching fag?? Whaaaaaaaaaaaa.....??????
ReplyDeleteI almost blew milk out of my nose on that one. Don't know Bob or if it the phrase fits, but them's funny words back to back.
My SPIH,(Special Place In Hell) would be an eternal ad hoc committee with Christy Guerrin and Courtney Love.
ReplyDelete"To do other wise is cowardly." was what I meant to type. Although I am glad the typo was so entertaining to those of you with the maturity of 4th graders.
ReplyDeleteSomeone posting as "Coward said" asked why I feel posting as anonymous is cowardly. It's simple. You have a name your parents gave you, and you do business under the name elsewhere in your life. Why hide behind the cover of anonymous here, if not to distance yourself from the words you write in order to protect yourself from the rhetorical slings and arrows of other bloggers?
Those individuals who post repeatedly under anonymous or some other moniker obviously don't want to be held accountable for what they have to say.
What are they afraid of? A bunch of other cowards who post anonymously?
As to why I feel posting as anonymous is dishonest, that too is simply stated. You have a known name. People know that name, and you share it freely with friends, family and coworkers. To say that your name is unknown is a lie.
And as we all know to lie is to be dishonest.
Blog on cowards!
I'm not a coward, I am a liar. I confess my name is not really liar, I am just a liar.
ReplyDeleteHey Bob. Is Bob really your name on your birth certificate or are you lying?
I bet its Robert.
Come on Bob or is it really Robert, are you a liar?
To be completely acurate where my name is Robert Tjaart Nanninga, my parents have always referred to me as Bob. I use to write under my given name, but editors shortened it to the familiar "BOB" in order to save space.
ReplyDeleteAs a professional actor I work under the name Robert T. Nanninga, and all checks I recieved are written to Robert T. Nanninga.
Thanks for asking. The truth shall set you free.
Encore, encore - more stocked and sabined.
ReplyDeleteNo more stocked and sabined.
ReplyDeleteMore stocked and sabined!
ReplyDeleteIt is some well writen classic stuff. Thanks to whoever is writing it.
I vote for no more stocked and sabined.
ReplyDeleteIt sucks. Do Do is funnier.
What happened with the grading ordinance? Can we have a follow up?
ReplyDeleteI do think it takes a thick skin to question or to dare to criticize public officials who have been known to be extremely vindictive and duplicitous.
I like "stocked and sabined," and I bet most people other than Jerome and some staff at City Hall, do also.
Jerome and his dirty tricksters love to post under annonymous names. Using any "blue name" means that JP could write you back, personally, I believe, and Jerome and crew have never risked that.
Of course the "twitchy" comments are psychological intimidation and manipulation, Dr. Lorri, almost certainly by Jerome. He stoops very low, and is crude, rude, and would love to chase you and anyone else away who does not buy into Stocks self-serving agenda of deceitful spin and mounting debt, selling our heritage to the highest bidder.